In related news, Vox Day discusses the difference between “cultural Christian” secular humanists like Richard Dawkins and “atheist atheists” like Michel Onfray here. I think I’m some kind of inverse of the former with a strong dose of the latter.
Finally, big ol’ queer and friend of a fetus-murderer IOZ plays down fears of theocracy here. Perhaps I should ask him to tell that to Chris Hedges or Kevin Phillips, but I’d like to keep the former as frightened as possible since he’s one of the few on the left supporting the refusal to pay taxes (on that note Chip Smith’s new publishing imprint Nine Banded Books is first set to release a novelization of Bradley Smiths “The Man Who Stopped Paying” retitled “The Man Who Saw His Own Liver”) nowadays. Perhaps he should be introduced to Vox’s ex-fugitive dad?
UPDATE: The Inductivist gets banned from the Chronicles site for defending Mormons.
UPDATE 2: Vox Day says he’s a culturally godless Christian while Dawkins is a culturally Christian atheist.
December 20, 2007 at 1:10 am
what little know of onfray tells me he’s a fantasist who makes things up to support his thesis.
December 22, 2007 at 11:40 am
Damn t – this stuff is hard to follow for those of us on the fat part of the bell curve, but is the inverse of [“cultural Christian” secular humanist]
a. “cultural non-christian” secular humanist
b. “cultural christian” secular non-humanist (NeoCon!)
c. “non-cultural christian” secular humanist (seems redundant)
d. “cultural christian” non-secular humanist (Christian)
Gopniks do better with multiple choice – Hey, it’s how I got into college. I’m afraid I might be a non-cultural non-christian secular non-humanist, and the scary part is, I vote.
December 23, 2007 at 12:11 am
I retain the aspects of Judeo-Christianity they reject as backward and reject the noble aspects they retain.
Why do you vote? You have a better chance of winning the lotto.
December 23, 2007 at 11:00 am
Sounds like you retain a belief in hell, damnation, and a righteous smiting of pagans and reject today’s happy-happy kumbaya universalism.
December 23, 2007 at 1:02 pm
Fire and brimstone hell is more a creation of Dante than anything biblical. Hell is the complete absence of God (the source of all goodness), and banishment from heaven is like being locked out of the proverbial wedding party, whereupon there is much wailing and gnashing of teeth. I wish fire and brimstone upon certain people though. I do still hold paganism lower than the Big Religions as something backward, primitive and extra-silly and my pulse quickens at the thought of smiting, but I don’t urge war and smiting for the sake of it. I don’t mind too much if others engage in it as long as I’m not involved though.